History

The history of the society is very well documented through its volumes of minute books in huge ledgers and through many other archive items. Together they reflect social developments since the late Victorian age, the society having had an uninterrupted peacetime existence since its foundation in 1886.

It continued to meet weekly through the First World War and managed to keep going through the early months of the Second World War until bombing brought a halt to to the regular debates.

It revived in strength in October 1945, receiving a boost through the admission of women in 1947—long before those famous student debating societies, the Oxford Union and Cambridge Union, admitted women.

The rules

The rules of 1895, illustrated on this page, remain largely in force today, except that there are no stipulations regarding the number of visitors present (rule 11).

The ban on matters strictly theological (rule 6), while no longer appearing in today’s rules, is nevertheless honoured in practice. Matters of faith and religion can be so deeply and sincerely held that they do not lend themselves to the cut and thrust of a debating forum.

Origins

Kingston was one of very many literary and parliamentary debating societies flourishing in the late 19th century. Nearby in this part of Surrey were the Richmond Athenaeum (which lasted 1881–1939), the Wimbledon Athenaeum and the inviting-sounding Kew Coterie. This last group did not engage in debate so much as ‘light papers’ over ‘tea and light refreshments’.

Almost all such societies, across the nation, have now foundered. By retaining the original disciplined structure for the Kingston meetings the members and visitors are adhering to a type of performance art that has largely died out, yet is renewed afresh every week in the vitality and ingenuity of the speeches covering a wide variety of topics.

The centenary history

In 1986 the society’s 400-page centenary history was published, written by two members and lavishly illustrated. It incorporated the 1800 debates so far held, with the speakers, the numbers attending and speaking, and voting figures.

But it is far more than a catalogue of proceedings and of arguments raging at the time. Studies of the members, the meeting places, the society’s traditions, finances, special occasions and even its humorous moments, are approached in an analytical yet readable style. They reflect the huge number of changes taking place since 1886, while yet paying tribute to the stability of the tradition of debate.

Entitled The Kingston Debating Society: The first hundred years 1886–1986, by Margaret Bird and Richard Worthington, it is available for purchase by visitors in person at the debates at £15.75.

It would be helpful if you could e-mail the society’s hon. archivist in advance of your visit, so that a copy is brought to the meeting:

kingstondebating[at]hotmail.com

The story of the presidential medallion

You may have noticed that the President’s medallion, or badge of office, provides the backdrop to the start of every page on this website. It is seen in full colour on the Home page. The three fish form part of the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames’s arms, and represent the three salmon fisheries recorded here in Domesday 1086.

All the Presidents wear it while in the Chair. On getting up to speak during a debate they remove it from their neck, as they will be contributing not as chairman but as an ordinary member with a voice. Presidents are elected annually by the members, a new person being chosen each year.

In recent years we have had presidents in their early twenties and their late eighties: debating appeals to all ages.

The society only became conscious of its interesting history as it approached its 50th birthday in 1936. A few months earlier the medallion was commissioned, and looked in its early years as it does at the foot of this page.

A direct hit

During the war, after debating had stopped in 1940, one of the members stored the medallion for safekeeping in his deposit box in a bank vault in central London. The bank suffered a direct hit on the night of 11 May 1941.

The medallion was extracted from the rubble, intact.

Since then the phoenix arising from the flames, with the bombing date, has adorned the badge of office.

A detailed study of the members in 1901

In September 2022 one of our members published a most readable and scholarly account of the Kingston Debating Society’s members in 1901; it was then an all-male institution. Dr David Kennedy made a study of the society’s archives for that period, including its minute books and printed programmes, and also drew on census records, wills and other sources to produce a rounded picture of the 48 men who constituted the membership.

It is freely available for public study on his website, Kingston History Research:

Members of Kingston Debating Society in The Spring of 1901: A Study

 

This is the opening part of the abstract, quoted with Dr Kennedy’s permission. The full 44-page paper can be downloaded as a pdf from the website link.

“ In the Spring of 1901 Kingston Debating Society [KDS], founded in 1886 and still in existence [see https://www.kingstondebating.org.uk], had 48 members, although not all attended the debates held in that season. All were male: women were not allowed to join until 1947. They represented the various sections of middle-class society at the time and no manual workers were identified.  All were well-educated.  Only four members were born in Kingston, 41 members were born elsewhere in the British Isles, one was born in Australia, one was born in Germany and one was born in Switzerland.  Just under 70% of members were heads of household.  Roughly 60% of were married and of these about one half had resident children.  Roughly 50% lived in a household with at least one resident servant. Some members had annual salaries that would have made them much better off than a skilled tradesman at the time and some, when they died, were considerably wealthy, as evidenced by probate records.  When elected to membership, the age range was 21 – 72, with a mean age of about 33 years.  Roughly 50% was under 30 years of age and most was under 40 years of age, when elected.  Of the 42 whose age upon death was found, the range was 50 – 93 years of age, with a mean of 71 years of age.”

 


Programme

Our Autumn Session runs from 17 October to 5 December 2024.

You can view the eight topics and their dates under The Debates.

Hybrid debates are proving very successful. Members and visitors can choose to attend in person or by Zoom.


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